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FrankT

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I'm using MP for about 1.5 years. While I find MP generally a great tool, and download speed has been greatly improved, I'm recently running into a performance issue.

When I load a project, it takes about 2 minutes and goes through several phases - it looks to me like it is converting anything, or checking anything. I don't know if MP is supposed to do this every time or only when a new version is installed - anyway, it does it every time.

While I could live with this, what makes it literally impossible to work with MP now is that every patent I add to the database, is followed by a multi-phase save routine that takes about 3 minutes. Or just right now, I added claims and description to 4 or 5 patents, and while it started downloading (which was quick) I could register for the forum, write this message, and it looks like it takes an other few minutes until it is done.

In simple words: Basically every command I do that requires some database interaction completely bogs MP down so that it is unusable in a real world environment.

The database contains 589 patent families and 7210 patents. This is probably a rather large database, however, some technical fields are just very crowded, and in order to have a complete overview of the relevant patents and applications I just have to have that many patents loaded. If I delete patents that are a bit less applicable, they are being added by reference/citing searches on the next refresh, so this is not a solution.
As a matter of fact, the problems started when the database was only half the size, and I can envision other fields where you have 5 or 10x more documents in one database.

I'm running MP under vmware on a Core2 System, Vixta x64 guest system, with 3 GB RAM dedicated to it (the machine has 8GB total). Nothing else is running that would steal a significant amount of CPU time. Sorting, filtering etc. works at acceptable speed.

Now the question: Is above described performance normal behavior of MP, or is my database somehow corrupt? The database is about 150MB.


Thanks much,

Frank
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Mannina
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Dear Frank,

I'm try to answer.

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I'm using MP for about 1.5 years. While I find MP generally a great tool, and download speed has been greatly improved, I'm recently running into a performance issue.

When I load a project, it takes about 2 minutes and goes through several phases - it looks to me like it is converting anything, or checking anything. I don't know if MP is supposed to do this every time or only when a new version is installed - anyway, it does it every time.

Some steps are temporaly added to keep the compatibility with old projects and some steps are necessary. Step 1 to 5 are necessary but Updating steps not.


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While I could live with this, what makes it literally impossible to work with MP now is that every patent I add to the database, is followed by a multi-phase save routine that takes about 3 minutes. Or just right now, I added claims and description to 4 or 5 patents, and while it started downloading (which was quick) I could register for the forum, write this message, and it looks like it takes an other few minutes until it is done.

effectively it's a real problem and we work actually on a new method to save data. This method will be more quickly but it takes time to developp it Embarassed

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In simple words: Basically every command I do that requires some database interaction completely bogs MP down so that it is unusable in a real world environment.

ok, I understand


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The database contains 589 patent families and 7210 patents. This is probably a rather large database, however, some technical fields are just very crowded, and in order to have a complete overview of the relevant patents and applications I just have to have that many patents loaded. If I delete patents that are a bit less applicable, they are being added by reference/citing searches on the next refresh, so this is not a solution.
As a matter of fact, the problems started when the database was only half the size, and I can envision other fields where you have 5 or 10x more documents in one database.

I'm running MP under vmware on a Core2 System, Vixta x64 guest system, with 3 GB RAM dedicated to it (the machine has 8GB total). Nothing else is running that would steal a significant amount of CPU time. Sorting, filtering etc. works at acceptable speed.

Now the question: Is above described performance normal behavior of MP, or is my database somehow corrupt? The database is about 150MB.


Your configuration is very good for MP, this is only MP that process too much information. We work on another solution to store data.
Actually we use List and we want to implement a new kind of list based on Tree.

So, be patient, we work hard to solve this issue.
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FrankT

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Thanks Bruno for looking into these matters. Let me know if you need the databases to work with - I could zip them up and provide them for you to download.

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Mannina
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Thank for your comprehension.

concerning big database, I have one or two for my test. We work on it since several days because we are aware about this issue when database are big.
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Dear Frank,

We worked hard on the next version 9.5 of MP.

Do you want to test it ? If yes, please contact directly the support at "support at matheo-software.com".

For 15 500 patents :
Old version: 20 minutes on Dual Core 256Mo
New version: 40 secondes on the same computer.

We need to do some tests to verify if some issues exist.

If you want you can be a "beta-testeur"
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