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fmendes

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Hi!!

The query Thin Film and Zirconia returned 0 results. When I use “Thin Film” and “Zirconia” returned 105 results. I don’t think it’s right. It happens in too many searchs. I’ve already updated this software in April.


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Mannina
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Hi,

Could you tell me the exact parameters you use ?

You search in TI or TI/AB or other ?
Range Date ?

With these informations I can tell you how many result Espacenet returns.

Tips: in MPatent, and because it uses OPS WebService from Espacenet, you must know some basic things:
- " " are necessary in MPatent (not in Espacenet website)
- OPS answers the number of patents and Espacenet answers the number of families.
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fmendes

Joined: 28 Apr 2009
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Wed 29 Apr 2009
Location: Brazil
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Hi,

Thanks for your reply.

I do my searchs in TI/AB and I always use it in (Matheo Patent=Espacenet). The years are 1989 to 2009.

Before " " were not necessary in my searchs. Today when i don't use " " my results are 0. And the results when I used " " are not satisfied. I think that it is less than usual.

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Fábio Mendes.
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Mannina
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MPatent is connected to OPS Webservice (from Espacenet) but Espacenet Website is not connected to the webservice.

The right request is :
"Thin Film" and Zirconia (in the field TI/AB)

I test your request:

Directly on Espacenet Website
1989 : 32 results
1990 : 19 results
1991 : 20 results
1992 : 16 results
1993 : 14 results
1994 : 13 results
1995 : 12 results
1996 : 6 results
1997 : 6 results
1998 : 9 results
1999 : 10 results
2000 : 11 results
2001 : 7 results
2002 : 24 results
2003 : 7 results
2004 : 11 results
2005 : 8 results
2006 : 9 results
2007 : 8 results
2008 : 4 results
2009 : 1 results

TOTAL = Approximately 206 families (+/- 5%, because some results from website is "Approximately")
Families because on Espacenet, 1 result = 1 family member only

With MPatent on OPS webservice:
1989 : 32 results
1990 : 19 results
1991 : 22 results
1992 : 16 results
1993 : 14 results
1994 : 13 results
1995 : 11 results
1996 : 6 results
1997 : 6 results
1998 : 10 results
1999 : 12 results
2000 : 12 results
2001 : 7 results
2002 : 26 results
2003 : 7 results
2004 : 12 results
2005 : 10 results
2006 : 9 results
2007 : 8 results
2008 : 4 results
2009 : 1 results

TOTAL = 257 patents EXACTLY because on OPS, 1 result = 1 patent.


To conclude, results seem to be good.


Could you confirm me that your request is well like on the top of this last post ?
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fmendes

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Hi!!

Thanks a lot for your answer.

I did this and the results are similar


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Fabio Mendes.
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