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aun

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Hi,

Quick question..

Is it possible to have more sets of groups? E.g. groups3, 4 and 5?

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Tim
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Hi Tim,

No, sorry but could you tell me what kind of interest to have several sets of groups ?
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aun

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Hi Brunno,

Thanks for your quick reply Smile

If I want a matrix or network diagram (for example of the applicants and technologies in a project) then I need to use the local search engine to pick out the main applicants - so I can group
groups/atomic which includes ("atomic inc" and "atomic corp")
groups/boarders

Then I can do the same for the technologies like groups2/composites
groups2/ergonomics
groups2/testing_methods

Then I can create a useful matrix or network diagram.

However I'm also interested to know which inventors moved between the companies so I'd want
groups3/joe_smith
groups3/andy_jones

Then I can compare three variables.

Also of interest would be a second set of technologies - from a different perspective - such as
groups4/standard-layout-snowboards
groups4/snowboards-with-joints
groups4/other_snowboard_layouts

Now I can compare four variables

I could also find other variables of interest such as
groups5/companies_which_only_make_snowboards
groups5/companies_which_also_make_skis
groups5/companies_which_also_make_outdoor_clothing

Once I have several variables, I can ask a larger range of questions - I.e. by comparing groups to groups2, or groups2 to groups3 etc.

Setting up the groups takes a long time so I don't want to delete all my groups2 so I can make a new set. So I need several ways to store groups.

With the snowboards example I could only think of 5 ways to use groups - however in my industry I'm sure I can benefit from having more than 5 sets of groups.

Also it's useful to be able to try two different approaches. For example when I created my company groups I wanted to keep the division between the subsidiaries of the larger companies - this may be useful when comparing the companies to the technologies. But it was not useful when comparing the companies to each other i.e. a network diagram of group2 vs group2) because it made it more complicated.

So extra groups would also allow me to have different approaches and decide which was best afterwards.

I hope this helps,

Tim
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Hi Tim,

Thank a lot for all these comments. I understand now.

But I have another idea :

Why do not give the choice to the user to select, inside a Group, which items he wants to select ?

With this method, just after the selection of Group/Group2, a new window appears which asks "Select items inside this group".

I think so Group2 will be unused !

What do you think about this idea ?
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aun

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Hi Brunno,

So if I click network diagram of group vs group then I get two lists of tick boxes? Yes - that could work!

However I do have a lot of categories within each group though (e.g. 50 in groups, and 50 in group2), so it would be useful to be able to store my choices so I can quickly use them again?

E.g. instead of selecting 20 boxes I could select the one at the end called 'preset 1' (or maybe it gets a name), and those boxes get automatically ticked?

Would this be possible? Wink

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aun

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....or alternatively, the storage of presets would not be neccessary if the user chooses group names like:

group/app:atomic
group/app:snowboarders
group/inv:joe_bloggs
group/inv:andy_jones
group/tech1:ergonomics
group/tech1:testing_methods
group/tech1:composites
group/tech2:standard-layout-snowboards
group/tech2:snowboards-with-joints
group/tech2:other_snowboard_layouts
group/co-type:snowboard_manufacturers
group/co-type:ski_manufacturers
group/co-type:clothing_manufacturers

Above the tick boxes would be a text box for the user to type something like "tech1" and press the "select" button. This would pre-select all the choices beginning with "tech1". (perhaps there would also be a "de-select" button).

In this case it would be useful if the chart, the network diagram or the matrix diagram only showed the text after the ":" symbol.

Is this a much easier solution? Mr. Green

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Sorry Tim,

Actually the best that I can do is to select items in each field (Group and Group 2)

Your solution is too complex Rolling Eyes
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Hi Brunno,

Ok so only group vs group2 with tick-boxes (not group vs group allowing different choices)?

It's still a good solution although it will take me more time (In some cases I'll add identical groups and group2s). I think I can see why the group vs group idea is more complex.

I'll be a very happy customer if you can offer your solution! Cool

By the way Brunno - You are certainly offering the best support of any software company I've ever heard of Smile Do you have a software development team or is the responsibility all yours?

Best,

Tim
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Hi Brunno,

Hi Tim, it's Bruno with one N Wink

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Ok so only group vs group2 with tick-boxes (not group vs group allowing different choices)?


Ok, thank's

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It's still a good solution although it will take me more time (In some cases I'll add identical groups and group2s). I think I can see why the group vs group idea is more complex.


hum... I understand but it's very complicated to do your other solution.

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I'll be a very happy customer if you can offer your solution! Cool

we try to make a software which meets the user's needs

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By the way Brunno - You are certainly offering the best support of any software company I've ever heard of Smile Do you have a software development team or is the responsibility all yours?


Thank's a lot for your comment. Concerning development team, yes but only MPatent is under my responsability.

Next revision coming soon...
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Hi Bruno,

I am agree with Tim ,Yes! You are certainly offering the best support of any software company I've ever heard of!! Great Job! Many Thanks.

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bc
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Dear Tim and Bruce,

Well it's done ! Please check the latest revision 9.1 090411.

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