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marc
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Hi again,
Even more comments... 
1. When I select "add patents" I have the option of downloading "drawing". What does the "drawing" option download? Is this the front page image? Or is this all the drawing sheets of the patent? I seem to remember in Matheo Patent 6.0, the program would download all the drawing sheets when "drawing" was selected? But Matheo 7 only downloads the front page image?
Is it possible for you to add an option where the drawing sheets or even just the mosaics can be downloaded in advance?
2. When I right click on a document where there is only one member in the family, I can't download anything? For example, add US4564272 is a single document family. If you add this document to your list and then right click on it, it is not possible to download the complete pdf.
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Mannina
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Hi,
hum...
1. Drawing means "Download all drawing sheet of the patent" (Mosaic tab on Espacenet). The picture of the first page now is downloaded automaticaly with Abstract.
2. Strange thing, i have the same problem ?  For US4564272 there are no PDF ?!?! I try to find why i have this problem and i make a new revision of MPatent. I see so if i select 2 patents and i do Right Click, then information Download Appear  
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Mannina
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Hi,
We have corrected the problem with Popup Menu Download.
See revision 050624.
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jcvergar
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Hi
As far as I see mosaic page is not downoaded, but the graphics.
¿Could it be possible to download not all the drawing pages of the "mosaic page" but the "mosaic page" itself and keep linked to the bibliographic record with another tab eg. "mosaic"?
This mosaic page linted with MP would be very useful, much more useful than some pages downloaded separately and not linked.
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It would be also very useful if the "default location" suggested by MP to download complete patent documents would be
C:\Program files\matheo\patents\requests\projectname\pdf\firstpg\
with the same document name.
In this way if we agree to download there, the "complete patent" document would overwrite the "first page patent" document, so the complete patent would be linked to the bibliographic record.
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marc
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Yes good idea.
I still don't get any drawings to download when I select the "drawings" option. It worked in Matheo 6, but not in matheo 7.
I will try to download the new version with regards to the popup menu.
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Hi all,
If you check Drawing option, MPatent will download Mosaic page (sometimes several pages) like on Espacenet v3.
I don't understand why you do the difference between Mosaic and Drawing ? Someone can explain me what is the difference ?
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Hi Bruno,
My version doesn't download any mosaics...
In version 6, when you selected the drawings option, all the drawing pages were stored in separate tabs.
In version 7, no drawings (not the individual drawing sheets and no mosaics) are stored in tabs.
That is to say, the only way I can see the mosaics is to click on the mosaics link which opens the espacenet page. It would be great if the mosaics were downloaded in advance, so no internet connection was necessary to view the mosaics after download.
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Hi,
i do this request "airplane" since 2004 and i check "Drawing" (~ 200 patents), i obtain several drawings.
I don't understand why you don't have Mosaic (named Drawing on tabs).
Could you download the latest version of MPatent ? May be it's the problem but i think not.
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Hi Bruno,
I have open a NEW project and ALL is ok.
After entering the search strategy, by clicking on "drawing" MP downloads the MOSAICS and they appear as new tabs: Drawing#1 Drawing#2 etc, thank you!
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But then I have tried to "upgrade" and OLD project ... I can't find the way to download drawings:
1.- If I say Update ... MP does not ask if I like to download "drawings", "first page", "description", etc ... ==> So do I have to suppose that MP will download exactly the same "tabs" as in last project?
2.- If I like complete and download "drawings" from selected patents ... I do right click on a patent (or on a group of patents) ... but in the contextual menu only appears "description patent" and "claims patent" ==> How to download drawings?
Thanks!
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Hi,
It's done in the new revision 050627 
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I just tried again with the new version, and it works with the drawings.
Don't know what I was doing wrong earlier...
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Thank you Bruno, 
I have just checked the following:
If a patent has not a drawing, then the contextual menu has the option "mosaic/drawing". OK
If a patent has a drawing, then the contextual menu has not the "mosaic/drawing" option. OK
If I mark a list of patents (some of them with drawings, other without drawings) then the contextual menu has the option "mosaic/drawing" option. OK
In this last case, if we clik to download, the result is that some patents with NO drawings have a "drawing#1" tab saying "Mosaic not available for this document" 
If this page comes from Espacenet, OK. But I think that this page is generated by MP, right? Then I think that this page is not informative but "noise". Is it possible simply to "not generate" this page?
Many thanks for your work
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You're Welcome,
This page is generated by Espacenet. Sorry.
It's because when you use this new option, i don't know if there are some drawings. But when we use "standard method" (New.. check Drawing, ....) the bibliographic page reply by Espacenet contain the information that Drawing is available.
hum... Do you understand
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Yes, I understand, and I'd like to help to advance one step forward.
 All the PDFs containing this sentence "Mosaic not available for this document" have very little size, and all the pages have the same size = 953 bytes
Perhaps you can detect the size of the pdf and if it is 953 bytes ... do nothing
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Hello,
ok, i will see what i can do for this.
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