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        | fmendes 
 
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				| Hi!! 
 The query Thin Film and Zirconia returned 0 results. When I use “Thin Film” and “Zirconia” returned 105 results. I don’t think it’s right. It happens in too many searchs. I’ve already updated this software in April.
 
 
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				| Hi, 
 Could you tell me the exact parameters you use ?
 
 You search in TI or TI/AB or other ?
 Range Date ?
 
 With these informations I can tell you how many result Espacenet returns.
 
 Tips: in MPatent, and because it uses OPS WebService from Espacenet, you must know some basic things:
 - " " are necessary in MPatent (not in Espacenet website)
 - OPS answers the number of patents and Espacenet answers the number of families.
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        | fmendes 
 
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				| Hi, 
 Thanks for your reply.
 
 I do my searchs in TI/AB and I always use it in (Matheo Patent=Espacenet). The years are 1989 to 2009.
 
 Before " " were not necessary in my searchs. Today when i don't use " " my results are 0. And the results when I used " " are not satisfied. I think that it is less than usual.
 
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 Fábio Mendes.
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				| MPatent is connected to OPS Webservice (from Espacenet) but Espacenet Website is not connected to the webservice. 
 The right request is :
 "Thin Film" and Zirconia (in the field TI/AB)
 
 I test your request:
 
 Directly on Espacenet Website
 1989 : 32 results
 1990 : 19 results
 1991 : 20 results
 1992 : 16 results
 1993 : 14 results
 1994 : 13 results
 1995 : 12 results
 1996 : 6 results
 1997 : 6 results
 1998 : 9 results
 1999 : 10 results
 2000 : 11 results
 2001 : 7 results
 2002 : 24 results
 2003 : 7 results
 2004 : 11 results
 2005 : 8 results
 2006 : 9 results
 2007 : 8 results
 2008 : 4 results
 2009 : 1 results
 
 TOTAL = Approximately 206 families (+/- 5%, because some results from website is "Approximately")
 Families because on Espacenet, 1 result = 1 family member only
 
 With MPatent on OPS webservice:
 1989 : 32 results
 1990 : 19 results
 1991 : 22 results
 1992 : 16 results
 1993 : 14 results
 1994 : 13 results
 1995 : 11 results
 1996 : 6 results
 1997 : 6 results
 1998 : 10 results
 1999 : 12 results
 2000 : 12 results
 2001 : 7 results
 2002 : 26 results
 2003 : 7 results
 2004 : 12 results
 2005 : 10 results
 2006 : 9 results
 2007 : 8 results
 2008 : 4 results
 2009 : 1 results
 
 TOTAL = 257 patents EXACTLY because on OPS, 1 result = 1 patent.
 
 
 To conclude, results seem to be good.
 
 
 Could you confirm me that your request is well like on the top of this last post ?
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				| Hi!! 
 Thanks a lot for your answer.
 
 I did this and the results are similar
 
 
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 Fabio Mendes.
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